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I have been reading stories about state lotteries and departments going after coin-pusher (medalian) games- as being a form if illegal gambling. I want to know what people here think of them.
I personally dont see it as gambling.. I dont expect a big payoff from a coin-pusher and its, at most, quarters to play just like any other little arcade game you see in a store.- if this qualifies for gambling then how come prize-grabing games that you pay a buck to try to pickup a toy or something not considered, in theory, gambling? would that not be similar?

• From this site it sounds like all slot machines are legal in OH, and a coin pusher would be a type of slot machine. They have a number to call. A new casino is going in in downtown Cincinnati, so I.
• Sep 06, 2017 Gambling charges filed against owners of coin-pusher machines By Pat Reavy @DNewsCrimeTeam Sep 6, 2017, 5:05pm MDT Following an extensive investigation, the Utah Attorney General's Office has filed gambling and money laundering charges against the owners of hundreds of coin-pusher and electronic kiosk machines in Utah.

There are old-fashioned basic coin-pushers and then there are much newer ones that really get fancy.. they seem to be big in Asia- and its almost like playing a video game at the same time on alot of them.
I saw one in a local gas station and enjoyed playing it.. I think I used about 5 bucks in quarters and got about 3 bucks back- I didnt mind, it was just kind of a fun thing to kill time with.
Another thing, is that alot of places such as laundromats and gas stations make a modest profit off the simple machines.. if they were really gambling machines though, wouldnt you see them inside a reguler casino somewhere..maybe in the lobby where kids could play with it?

Another thing, is that alot of places such as laundromats and gas stations make a modest profit off the simple machines.. if they were really gambling machines though, wouldnt you see them inside a reguler casino somewhere..maybe in the lobby where kids could play with it?

They got big here in MN in the mid to late '90s. Then they were ruled to be gaming machines, and they all had to be removed (Only indian gaming and card clubs here...).
I like playing them in gas stations when I drive across WI to visit friends in Appleton. BUT, I've noticed that those games are unfair. The WI version does not award all pushed coins to the player. At the bottom of the machine is a little cup that does not fill the entire aperature of the coin collection area. The player only receives the coins that slide down into the cup (about 80% of pushed coins based on experience).
Also, if they're gaming machines that award currency, then I think the usual rules would apply in a given jurisdiction: They'd be illegal for kids to play. That said, there was a version with tokens and tickets in the arcade that we took my brother to for part of his bachelor party.
**small edit** I can't help but comment...that arcade had what was basically a big 6 wheel, and several games with progressive jackpots. It's like the kids are gamblers-in-training. Shame on New Mexico for letting it go that far.Eh, I would probably call it gambling. The people who play are giving their coins for the chance at more money, with minimal or no skill involved.

if this qualifies for gambling then howcome prize-grabbing games that you pay a buck to try to pickup a toy or something, would that not be similar?

That's an interesting question... maybe it's because those games award goods instead of money? That seems like a funny distinction, though, since that plush toy you just won has a monetary value.
I've also seen some 'pseudo-gambling' machines at video arcade places like Dave and Buster's; I actually played a game at D&B's that was very similar to roulette. There was a wheel divided up into colors, and you 'bet' credits on where this big yellow ball would land. Pick the right color and you won tickets.
I kept wondering how that didn't qualify as gambling, and again, the only thing I could think of was that the machine gave out tickets which could be exchanged for items, not direct money. Heck, the D&B's I was at even had the coin-pusher machines, but with Dave and Buster's coins that could be exchanged for prizes or something.
There is some difference between actual gambling and all of the stuff we're talking about though... I don't see people getting addicted to those toy prize arm machine things or hotlines set up for people with coin-pusher problems. I have no idea what that distinction is, though.I have a page on that game on my Odds site. Here in Vegas we call it Flip It.

I have a page on that game on my Odds site. Here in Vegas we call it Flip It.

It is perhaps the only game where the name of the game is very similar to what you say after you give up and stop playing it.
Oh, wait, I forgot about 'craps'.If it returns coins, even if it's only a portion of the actual coins pushed, it's gambling.
If it returns tokens that are only good to play more games or to purchase something at the prize counter, then it's not gambling.

By sprint54fanFebruary 1, in Amusement Vending. I have located a pot of silver coin pusher. Is this unit legal in the state of illinois or indiana to run in a location like say a china buffet.

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Pushers are illegal in most statesespecially with coins. If its a real pot of silver machine and works good. Those sold for well over Good luck Ya I found my answer finally after digging that any coin operated device that rewards money is considered gambling and illegal in Illinois.

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How do I find out if coin pusher games are legal in Ohio?

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They are designed to capture the carnival-goer's attention, offer a cheap prize for the completion of an apparently simple task and make tons of money for the operators of the carnival. One particularly difficult mechanical game is the quarter or token pusher. The game has many variations but essentially all quarter pusher games involve the player attempting to land a coin directly inside a specific space. This space can be a small container, or various holes each with a different prize value based on the difficulty of landing the coin.

Usually an element makes the game especially difficult by having the coin slide down a moving arm or by having the prize container move. This forces the player to have to synchronize his movements with the movements of the machine. The one way to beat the game is to time the drop effectively.

Before even placing a coin inside the machine, observe it closely for a while. Wait until the moving arm is farthest away from the prize container or hole.

At the very second when it is farthest away, begin counting seconds and stop at the point where the arm and the bucket meet. This will happen quickly, so you must count quickly and be as accurate as possible.

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Repeat this at least two times to obtain the most accurate reading. When you play your coin or token, remember the number of seconds that you calculated. Begin the count when the moving arm or prize container is farthest away. Have your coin ready to drop. When the arm gets halfway to the prize container, drop the coin. The coin should land in or near the prize container.

Repeat this same strategy a few times until you win. However, know your limit. If after five tries you are unsuccessful, save your money and walk away. An avid artist and hobbyist, he began professionally writing inspecializing in crafts-related articles for various websites. By: Jeremy Cato Updated April 12, Share It. About the Author. Photo Credits.Anyone know how to find out?

It all depends if it is considered a game of skill or a game of chance. Here is the section of the Ohio Revised Code regarding the requirement of licensure for games of chance. Games of chance are more clearly defined in this section of the ORC. You can find your representative here and your senator here.

They used to have these at an indoor amusement park at a mall in Indiana, but they used tokens instead of quarters and paid off in tickets that could be redeemed for prizes. From this site it sounds like all slot machines are legal in OH, and a coin pusher would be a type of slot machine. They have a number to call. A new casino is going in in downtown Cincinnati, so I would have to think that the claim that all slots are legal is probably true.

Whether or not you have to register with the state as operating a game of chance is another matter. I just read about it after seeing your post. I bet it does good. This question is in the General Section. Responses must be helpful and on-topic. To join, you must be at least 13 years old and agree to the terms and conditions. General Question. How do I find out if coin pusher games are legal in Ohio?

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Have a question? Ask Fluther!They're called 'games of skill. That's a complicated call, however, as the skill may be as basic as figuring out where to complete a tic-tac-toe line. Pretty basic, right? Except in this case, the machine - unlike when you were dueling wits with Grandpa - first sets the entire game up for your single move.

And you're trying to match 'lucky fruit,' as opposed to Xs and Os. They are, quite literally, popping up like dandelions now at convenience stores, gas stations and sub shops on the main streets in Pennsylvania's towns, or the secondary roads that corporate chains long ago abandoned for the busiest corners in the area.

They are, as an industry, looking at the law change to see what opportunities it has created for them. Critics say that creates an unregulated 'Wild West' situation for bettors who don't have strict state rules to guide their play. It also undercuts the public purposes of state-sanctioned games like the Lottery or non-profits' small games of chance. Though no formal analysis has been completed to date, there is also a concern, Miller continued, that at the roughly 1, lottery retailers' who have installed the 'skill' games, there may be some erosion of sales.

One doesn't have to prod very hard to get an argument, the court rulings notwithstanding, over the machines' legality. LCE agents are monitoring the machines, he says, in the bars and clubs where they have liquor code jurisdiction, and occasionally launch new cases in the hopes of getting more legal clarity about their place in Pennsylvania's ever-expanding gambling spectrum. The state's gambling expansion law contained a broadened definition of slot machines that included the games of skill, which some state officials interpret as making them legal only in licensed casinos.

But to date, Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board spokesman Doug Harbach says his agency has not dealt with these machines because no casino has sought to have them approved for play. That leaves gray area.

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And in the interim, skill games producers are working hard to fill the void. In that case, state Judges Paula Francisco Ott and Mary Jane Bowes cited testimony from the owner of the machines who said that, with practice, a player could push buttons at just the right moment to stop the reels of a slots-like machine to win the games.

Because of that skill component, these judges have found, these specific machines can not be deemed gambling devices per se. That makes them different from, for example, the video poker games or slots machines in the back rooms of some private clubs and bars that police have battled for years.

Secondly, while the company tries to self-regulate now - it encourages its hosts to check players' ages, just like they would for the sale of cigarettes, and it refuses to lease more than five machines to a room - it is open to additional state regulation going forward, McGinness said. Because Pace-O-Matic does not consider its product a gaming device, McGinness added, he believes that regulation should come through the state Department of Agriculture, which regulates carnival and fair games, or Revenue, which handles small games of chance.

Until that time, Pace-O-Matic believes it is filling an important need in 'helping clubs, taverns and other locations get more people in the door, and helping their businesses to grow,' McGinness said. Despite the early legal wins, on the streets there's a palpable level of nervousness about these games. A reporter approached a woman playing 'Pennsylvania Skill' in a Carlisle convenience store on a recent Thursday, about 8 p.

She declined, indicating she didn't have the time. On a return trip to the same store about midnight, the same customer was seated at the same machine, playing away. She again declined an interview. One Harrisburg-area business owner gave us his take on the machines, but only if his name and the name of his business was left out of the story because of his own uncertainty about their legality.

He currently has two games, he said, both of which draw regular play from customers at 40 cents a play. Under the deal he has with his distributor, the owner said, he agrees to host the machines and cover any related electricity costs.

Winning bettors bring payout slips to a cashier for redemption. At each collection period, the business is reimbursed for prizes paid, and the rest of the 'winnings' from the machine are split. In his case, the owner said, the split is 40 percent to the bar, 40 percent to the distributor and 20 percent to game's manufacturer.

Payout rates can't be set like a slot machines, the business owner explained, but because the puzzles the machines set are of varying degrees of difficulty, he's been told the average win for the house is about 10 percent. Profits are kept in a segregated account, in part to innoculate the business from any potential legal problems over the skill games.

The owner reports his split as separate income for tax purposes. That created a couple of months where he was actually forfeited his share to the distributor, who had covered the extraordinary prize. He's liked having the games in, the owner said, because the return for the space is higher than other machines, and when someone wins it can translate into nice tips for his employees.

The only thing that bothers him, he said, is the legal uncertainty. That same uncertainty has already caused some other sites to walk away.Updated: April 16, am.

Some Arizona businesses looking for extra profits have found themselves on the wrong side of state gaming laws. Mark Brnovich said while the ones confiscated so far are in Maricopa County, there is evidence the devices are in shops throughout the state.

He said state law does allow for amusement devices, even those where people can — but are not guaranteed to — win something.

Brnovich called that the Chuck E. Cheese exception, referring to the chain of pizza outlets that caters to families with various games that let customers win small prizes. But Brnovich said this is quite different from putting a quarter in a machine in hopes of clawing a stuffed animal. At some theoretical point, the new coin adds just enough so that a volley of coins at the front end fall into a hopper to be retrieved by the player.

Brnovich said state law makes any machine which awards cash illegal. Beyond that, Brnovich said state law makes the setting of a machine crucial to the question of its legality. In any event, though, the fact that the pushers offer cash make them off limits no matter where they are located. Dang, I love playing those machines at Chuck E Cheese's. They use tokens instead of quarters there so I hope they can keep them.

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High 86F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Tonight Clear skies.By bbecklJuly 26, in Amusement Vending. I cant stress enough how greatful i am to you ,and every experienced vendorwho shares information like this. I don't know what state your in so i don't know the laws. I do know that it is the lottery that normally gets the machines picked up,they are the ones complaining,not some kids mom.

They are there for you to GET your take You can adjust the payout to customer by changing the following The coins will get stacked really high and when someone wins they won't just a coin,they would win a handful. I use lexan for the front lip for the operator,you can bend that easily by laying on floor and pressing down with your foot ,it won't get all tangled and dented up like aluminum on other models of pushers.

You have the guy who wants to drop in 10 coins really fast and see what he will win and then you have the lady that plays for hours and never wins anything because she keeps putting it back in the machine Ill have a location and it will be making a week catering to player 1 say the guy who wants to win big fast and the owner will complain and say i need to make it win more because some lady said 'I played the one down the street for 2 hours on just five bucks.

Your machine took my 5 bucks in 5 minutes. Its a continued progress and we will try to keep improving and value feedback from operators. All of the american made blazing quarters a company did buy the rights to produce some overseas but the company failed to produce it right so it was not continued all have v gear motors like other pushers,the chinese copies only about 50 made had a DC motor.

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Most pusher have a 'always on' coin divert system,the only time the coins are diverted to the 'house bucket' is when the machine is tilted and alarm goes off or if its unplugged. The solenoid is powered all the time generating a lot of heat,I had a coin pusher catch fire with this system a few years ago.

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This is why my pushers do not operate this way. I also got tired of waitresses getting the free coin or so that falls every hour or so in these models just by the normal vibrations of game.

With blazing quarters system all the volunteer coins will be in the operators cashbox. The blazing quarters solenoid is only triggered by PCB when coin is dropped in coin mech,it stays on for 30 seconds and then closes,if someone tilts it then it closes immediately and alarm sounds for 10 seconds.

Are Coin Pushers Legal In Washington State

Alot of other mfg. The bonus hole pusher can also be triggered with simple coat hanger,i learned this and that is why we haven't sought a similar system for progressive. This will make it more secure,this same trick works on the mcgregors too. Pushers are outlawed here as they are considered 'gambling machines'. I see the watered-down versions in arcades that spit out tickets, but that's no good to the rest of us.

I would come back and machine would have quarters all mixed in with tokens. I to have a lot set up for tokens and fill with bling, gift cards and star points.

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I tear a redemption ticket in half has long number on each side and tape one pc with number to bottom of star and tape the other in my notebook on page for that location. I don't buy the prizes i just have large poster printed and laminated in machine,when they win i buy the prizes. I have seen machines to oregon,they where in laundries.

I can tell you most states offices first thing out of their mouth when you ask them is something illegal is 'Yes its illegal' as they don't want any liability in telling you otherwise, and they don't want to research it to find out. I could call my state right now and ask 'is it illegal to have gum ball machine and have a display with a watch on it but there is only one watch in machine?? If you play the machine hoping to get more than what you are paying for and not having any control over the outcome then most people would define that as gambling If it makes a lot of money for the operator then they dont want it,especially since they are the mob the lottery and their numbers game is the only one allowed in town!